This is a private web site. Free Speech and other Constitutional Rights do not apply here as they are intended only for the government and public space. The following are rules of conduct.
You will be blocked if you:
- Swear, use offensive language, mock or attack any writers or participants personally.
- Call anyone a racist or a hater, even if it’s disguised. (“I like you and I hope God will open your eyes so that you can stop hating and end your racism”). A racist is a person who just won a fight against a liberal. If you can prove me wrong, please do so. But since liberals have no way to respond to indisputable facts and rational logic, they must attack others with words like “racist” in order to somehow feel superior to someone who actually won the argument.
- Use words like “nigger”. Either make a point or don’t. Calling people names makes you look ridiculous. Stating that you are afraid to send your kids to a black school because of the high crime and the targeting of whites may persuade someone. Saying, “I hate them niggers” will only make you look like a fool.
- Issue statements in support of Hitler or any openly Nazi web site (that includes Stormfront and other Klan pages and forums). Nazis are an embarrassment to anyone trying to counter the views of the far-left. The Left purposely tries to create the impression that any non-leftist must be a Nazi. The reason this tactic is successful is that most neo-Nazis embrace this ideology only because they like being the object of other people’s disgust. I reject the idea that opposing affirmative action and hundreds of billions annually in government spending on blacks is somehow Nazi. In any event, this is not a Nazi web site. If you are looking for Nazis, go some place else and never come back here.
- Suggest that slavery, lynching, Holocaust or other such events were positive and should happen again. Any civilized society must support the rule of law. One of the sources of our pride is (or should be) the fact that whites eliminated slavery and then forced everyone else to do the same. If you think Sudanese Arabs are right to enslave Sudanese blacks, you probably do not belong in the Western civilization that rejected slavery. I don’t suggest that we go and fight other people’s wars, but we should never say that slavery, mob justice (lynching) or genocide is a positive event. It makes us look barbaric. Almost like we are a Third World people.
- Rather than argue your point, you cite your education as proof of your superiority. I don’t care about your education. Many people, myself included, are probably better educated than you are. Go crawl back to your liberal hole where you can make believe that only liberals are educated and those who disagree must be rednecks. And in any event, your education is irrelevant. Either you can make a good point to defend your point of view or you can’t. Let everyone decide the quality of your reasoning based on what you write. Even if you have a higher degree, it does not make you right. Hiding behind your degree makes it clear that you are wrong and merely trying to intimidate others.
- Attempt to defame someone and otherwise ruin their reputation.
Love your site. Thanks
I admire your blog and agree wholeheartedly. I also have a blog that concentrates on defense of the most ridiculed and unappreciated being on the planet…the white male.
I also do not allow offensive name-calling but we do expose leftist racial hypocrisy. I’d love to link to your site.
Angry White Dude
Yeah! Woo! Finally someone is standing up for us! Im sick of being called a racist because im white
- Call anyone a racist or a hater, even if it’s disguised. (”I like you and I hope God will open your eyes so that you can stop hating and end your racism”). A racist is a person who just won a fight against a liberal. If you can prove me wrong, please do so. But since liberals have no way to respond to indisputable facts and rational logic, they must attack others with words like “racist” in order to somehow feel superior to someone who actually won the argument.
Tubbs has been doing this in spades even if in a covert way. I think it is time to block him.
- Swear, use offensive language, mock or attack any writers or participants personally.
Sounds like Rob Whiteman to me…
I approved it just to show the class of opposition we are facing here. i get messages like that daily.
We state facts and logic. They either call us name or cry racism.
Guywhite somebody like that, I mean theres just nothing you can do short of shooting him in the head to silence that BS, he’s completely full of hate, and ignorance. Hes not here to discuss but to ridicule, to piss on us with his lack of knowledge that some ignorant racist person somehow convinced him of.
Give me Tubbs anyday over that crap. So in this case theres nothing to do but ignore him, if you talk back he comes out with more left field references. Youtube is full of people like this. I think by deleting his posts and not saying anything he’ll just get tired and leave.
Why are non-liberal white men so angry? As the extreme polar-opposite, I find it quite fascinating.
Hey, GW-
Would you call yourself a “conservative”? I’m interested in finding out…b/c too many non-conservatives types like to pick up the mantle of conservatism, not knowing the true meaning of the word, and thereby diluting the movement and allowing wacko liberal types to propagate their irrational, ridiculous views about us through the left wing media and other public sources of disinformation. I know what liberalism is; as I went through the Ivy League and it is a cesspool of liberal thought, ideology, and dogma.
Not saying you are right or left, just interested in your answer.
Yes, I’d say that I am a conservative. That said, there are many times of conservatives. I am the old-fashioned con type.
29Jan09
It seems that Humanity is tending to some sort of a gray culture as a solution to what some perceive as a pervasive “inequality”. Perhaps when western culture adjusts to the lowest common denominator of behavior suggested by statistics, such as increasing tolerance for rape, robbery, murder, et al. Then maybe, we’ll all be able to get along! Let’s call it Carterism!
I really would like to know what any White male has to be angry about. Any takers?
“I really would like to know what any White male has to be angry about. Any takers?”
We are facing a similar situation to that of the Jews: while we are more successful than others, we are blamed for our success, we are discriminated by the government and institutions at all levels (affirmative action) to stop us from succeeding, we are seen as the cause of all evil, our failure in anything is celebrated (“greater diversity!”), the existence of our culture is denied, riots against us are justified.
If Jews could be angry about their history of discrimination, riots, etc., there’s no reason why whites should just accept it.
I like your commenting rules, I’m thinking of doing something like this myself.
I really would like to know what any White male has to be angry about. Any takers?
Having to compete with the mass of third world labor moving into our countries just so corporations can force wages down. The fact that many of us our aware that many of these people hate our country and hate our way of life. If x third world country is so great move there and shut up about x western country. I say if you believe in the values of the West you should be able to live here, if not leave.
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A general comment to Guywhite and his site rules and priorities.
I respect the fact that you are mindful of how sites like yours often get hijacked by or unfairly lumped together with neo-racist sites, and I think it’s admirable that you disallow vituperative uses of words like ‘nazi’ and ‘nigger.’
But it is a bit ironic that, while you say you’ll ban users who liken certain conservative views with nazism, and other ‘racist’ organizations, many of your fellow-travelers philosophically do an inverted version of the same thing to liberal posters. I’ve seen links to videos of lectures by khalid muhammad to ‘prove’ farfetched claims about african history are widely shared among mainstream african-americans, when in fact he and his rants are about as unpopular among black Americans as David Duke’s are among white Americans. And that is just one example.
And while you call out liberal conceits quite well, you seem blind to some of your more boilerplate conservative rhetoric — i’m afraid that some of your posters’ gripes about being mislabeld by liberals are so whiny and angst-ridden, i’d dare say they’re indulging that most dreaded of liberal indulgences, in assuming the role of… ‘victim.’
nikcrit writes:
“I’ve seen links to videos of lectures by khalid muhammad to ‘prove’ farfetched claims about african history are widely shared among mainstream african-americans, when in fact he and his rants are about as unpopular among black Americans as David Duke’s are among white Americans.”
I think that’s a fair point, but I think it’s also fair to point
out that there are similar nutcases in the more mainstream
Black community, like Amiri Baraka. Henry Louis Gates, Jr.,
while no Khalid Muhammad, is a sad example of a
mainstream ‘academic’. Don’t Blacks produce first rate
physicists, mathematicians, architects, etc.?
Besides Thomas Sowell, I’m having a hard time thinking of
any, and I have a deeper than laymen’s interest in those
fields (e.g., I can think of Chinese and Japanese physicists,
and even a Ahmadi Muslim one) so I should be able to
list a few. It seems that all of the prominent Blacks study
African American stuff.
I see your point but feel you’re overlooking a few things.
There does seem to be a real dearth of black professors in scientific and mathematical fields; the great majority are in more practical social-science fields (e.g., teachers going to night school to get a master’s in education, so they can become principals or other administrators). And the relative few in humanites fields tend to be in African-American-focused literature or history fields, if not in the mixed-blessing of the African-American studies Ph.D.”
The disproportion is likely because blacks— for many reasons, excusable and not— were fairly late to the grad-school game; and when they did finally arrive, ‘race-studies’ and its attending pieties of social-uplift were all the rage. This, as we might agree, was sort of unfortuante; the black community could really use more stand-out biomedicine and engineering professors and fewer sociology and african-american studies profs.— though i won’t take anything away from them or their fields.
But I disagree about Gates; he is a strong academic and non-academic writer. His dispassionate, strictly scholastic work is not widely read or know about by the public — but he does indeed have the chops. I happen to be a fan of his non-academic writings, most of which are compiled articles from magazines like the New Yorker. For his non-academic work, i’d recommend his compilation “13 Ways of Looking at a Black man” (Wallace Stevens was one of his idols); and “Loose Canons,” his take on the academic prof follies of the late ’80s/early ’90s — where, ironically, he rails pretty hard against the academy’s plunge into race politics and political correctness.
one more thought:
I have real mixed feelings about Sowell; not so much for his career of recent years, but some of the stuff he wrote in the ’80s was a classic case overcompensation (he’s a reformed Marxist, y’know). Don’t know too much about him lately beyond his article archive at realclearpolitics.com…as for Baraka—yeah, i agree with you, but i think he would, too. Remember, a lot of this black academics spawned ’60s were not so much strictly academics, but a curious spawn of academic, politician, provacateurs and media-cult figures — and he certainly knows that and is proud to run with that multi-tag banner; hence, the ‘nuttiness.’ Back when Baraka went by the name Leroy Jones, he wrote a greatly influential book about jazz and blues, entitled ”
Blues People.” I prefer to remember that Baraka than the one who generated some ill-sourced hype and promotion by making some crude remarks about 9/11 several years back.
Thomas Sowell was briefly a Marxist sympathizer as an
undergraduate. It’s hardly fair to call him a “reformed
Marxist”. By your estimation, almost everyone with a
college degree is a reformed Marxist.
I know of Amiri Baraka’s past. I can’t find the reference, but I recall reading that he described Julian ‘Cannonball’
Adderley’s soloing as ‘aimless noodling’ or some such.
That’s the point at which I lost interest in his (Leroi Jones
at the time) writings. Stanley Crouch said that the guy
went stark raving mad when he went off on his whole
Black superman schtick. He was also a bit off for his
critique of Adderley, who was IMO one of the greats. If
I am misremembering, feel free to correct me.
BTW, I like Stanley Crouch’s writings quite a bit. While he may be something of a racist himself, he’s a very good
writer, really knows his music, and seems like a likable
fellow in spite of his violent outbursts. I’d have a beer
with him any time.
To my original point. Did you ever answer my question about whether the obvious Black domination of the
100 m dash and related events is genetic or cultural?
The reason I ask is that I think that the obvious Black
failure to produce a significant number of first rate
intellectuals in math related fields is, like the situation
in the 100m dash, largely genetic. If Black average IQ is
about 85, that means that the number of Blacks with
IQs above 140 is very, very small. It’s not just the USA,
I’m considering Blacks everywhere, Africa and the African
diaspora.
I love Crouch’s work — most of the time; have interviewed him twice and reviewed his novel (my background is more the humanities and music, jazz and pop; so in the interest of fairness and disclousure, i can only offer good-faith opinions and inquiries when the discussion enters the deeper and dicier realms of science and genetics)…
the book i mention of leroi jones was written (or compiled, actually; it, too, is mainly an assemblage of essays and articles) in 1962, so i won’t swear by all its opinions.
As for the w.african sprinters. i certainly see your point, but don’t know enough to have a hard-line opinion. my admittedly layman’s opinion is that some sort of merger between culture and genetics are involved —”evolutionary psychology” perhaps? At what point does a cultural tradition become so deeply and historically ingrained that inculcates physically? maybe that is how genetic differences develop; but as i said a moment ago, i’m getting a bit outside myself and abilities here…
but the larger point then, is: what can PRACTICALLY be done about. and here some sort of practical yet moral principle should be involved imo. and a lot of the posters here seem to be indulging fantasy when they talk about regional separatism, etc. — high-speed trains, planes, internet, etc.; it’s getting harder and harder to isolate and preserve all these ‘incompatible cultures,’ dontcha think?
The level of genetics and statistics needed to understand the basic ideas of human biodiversity are not that deep or specialized. It’s the statistics I’d worry about most (are you math savvy?) but even that is workable.
“but the larger point then, is: what can PRACTICALLY be done about. ”
That’s really the most important question, isn’t it?
“and here some sort of practical yet moral principle should be involved imo. ”
I agree. But we get to a fundamental disagreement because you think that the very tools which ensure an unbiased outcome (IQ tests, written tests of any kind) are unfair because Blacks do worse than Whites on them. It’s like blaming the stopwatch for Blacks doing better on the 100m dash.
“and a lot of the posters here seem to be indulging fantasy when they talk about regional separatism, etc. —”
I agree again, but stranger things have happened. And the phenomena of “White flight” is real.
“high-speed trains, planes, internet, etc.; it’s getting harder and harder to isolate and preserve all these ‘incompatible cultures,’ dontcha think?”
It’s one thing to have non-citizen migrant workers, and visitors, it’s another to have your neighborhood overrun with illegal immigrants who have no intention or desire to assimilate.
On that issue, I think Black leaders are crazy. Mexicans don’t like Blacks, and in the long run Blacks will not benefit from the Mexicanization of the USA.
I don’t in any way espouse illegal immigration. And i think it’s ridiculous the way the u.s. has maintained an absolutely schizophrenic non-policy on the issue over the years. They’ve implicitly condoned an illegal status-quo for decades, allowed secondary industries and cultures to develop because of that; and then occasionally entertain get-tough policies when it’s convenient politically to do so, yet all the while winking at their big-biz constituents to relax and not worry…but because of the drugs and other issues that come along with illegal immigration, i think some form of drastic military enforcement —perhaps even ‘the wall’ — should be strongly considered.
furthermore:
I’m not as dogmatic on the idea of IQ tests as it appears you think I am. If you recall, I can even live with the fact that blacks may have statistically lower scores because of an inherent lesser ability —- but I’m just not honestly convinced that such a disparity in results wouldn’t be attributable to cultural factors.
Are these universal IQ tests administered in many different languages? Since certain minorities do better than others, are certain minorities more amenable (for a host of researchable reasons) to assimilation than others? Are (mere) alien minority cultures different than oppressed minority cultures? Keep in mind that African-Americans aren’t just another minority, such as Asians or Arabs; they’re a cultural index who served as the absolute opposite of what was culturally valued socially, as far as American class and sociocultural history goes, and i would contend that such a status brings unique burdens — though i’m probably as weary of discussing such issues as i’d guess you would be.
So, my final word on this issue: i do believe it’s impossible to create a universal, absolutely objective measure of “intelligence quotience” —- and I say that with absolute conviction that i’m not just trying to avoid an uncomfortable truth, because, as i said, I wouldn’t be that worried even if it could be proved.
and btw: i’ve taken several I.Q. tests over the years, and my scores averaged in the high 120/low 130s; i was never brought up to pay much attention to such scores, but was told i was in the ‘bright-normal’ range. so, i was wondering, do i get statistical ‘bump’ for being an additional 15 more points above the norm of 100, since my group’s ‘real’ norm is 85? And would i have perhaps failed if i went into science or physics, since i’m a ways below the 140 cut-off you mention?
(i’m being a bit facetious here, but i am curious about where that i.q. stands, as i haven’t thought about such things for a long while. what sites with info about I.Q. might you recommend).
Nikcrit – if you deserve a ‘bump’ for being race-atypical, it should take the form of subsidies to encourage you to produce children of above-average intellect to help close the gap between white and black IQ. If you are really, genetically, above-average then it would benefit the image of blacks in America if you reproduced more than the welfare queens of the ghetto. Of course, that’s highly unlikely since your reproductive capabilities are restricted by time spent in “education” and “financial obligations”.
Regarding IQ, it’s generally bad form to cite generic “IQ tests”. The SAT, GRE, LSAT et al. are strictly regulated tests whose results must provide a valid, predictive result in order to remain relevant. Any moron can click on an “Is your IQ higher than Lindsay Lohan’s?!?!!?” link and find evidence of personal genius.
Would you have failed if you went into science or physics? Who knows? You certainly don’t, since you didn’t! Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. When the next scientist or physicist comes up with an innovation that revolutionizes society and benefits everyone, your give-me-my-share attitude will do nothing but marginalize and drive out our best and brightest. Our affirmative-actionocracy encourages “oppressed” groups to gravitate toward the zero-sum game of racial politics rather than fields which genuinely advance the human condition.
no, i was referring to an IQ test — the Weschler Adult Intelligence Quotient, i believe — adminstered by psychologists several times in my late teens to mid-20s. i thought that was a ‘real’ IQ test. but, like i said, i’m not expert on these matters and didn’t suss out the details. but those were the scores i remember; may even have the written-down results stored somewhere.
I didn’t really mean to put out a ‘give-me-my-share’ attitude; like i said, i was being a bit sarcastic, but then i guess i shouldn’t, as you don’t know me well enough. no offense. but for the record, i don’t put much into those results; our discussions reminded me of the tests, which i haven’t really thought about for more than ten years. just anecdotally wondered what they might indicate, if anything. (correction, think it stood for weschler adult intelligence scale, not ‘quotient.’).
i don’t have real fixed attitudes on these matters and am open to influence. just generally interesting to me.
I think it’s clear that big business benefits greatly from
illegal immigration. While I’m generally very pro-business,
I’m not blind, and I realize that there are billions of dollars
supporting the status quo.
The drugs would come up here anyways, even without illegals. I’m more worried about tens of millions of people
placing a drain on our society, and changing the culture for
the worse. I’m also not happy about the invaders being
‘qualified’ for affirmative action.
IQ tests are not language dependent. How could they be?
I chose the 140 cutoff for math and physics somewhat arbitrarily. I’m sure if your IQ was 130 and you were a
hard worker, and patient (i.e., you scored high in the
Big 5 personailty trait of ‘conscientiousness’), you could be
a successful journeyman mathematician or physicist. The
consistently brilliant mathematicians and physicists are
on a higher plane of IQ.
If IQ were cultural, and not genetic, I’d be ecstatic. That
would mean that we could raise the average IQ of Blacks
(of everyone, not just Blacks!) and if that were so I’d
say we should spend whatever it takes to achieve that.
As I said, I am NOT hostile to Blacks or anyone else on
account of their race. I just don’t believe that it is more
cultural than genetic.
I think Guy has some pointers to sites with IQ studies
(no, not Stormfront or White Nationalist sites, real
academic sites about psychometrics) but I will look around
later for some better sites. Give me a few days.
Given that HBD is at least roughly true, I think your
question “What do we do about it?” is the right one.
And you’re right, moral questions come into play.
I’m sorry, but don’t knwo what HBD stands for…
Re: immigration: to clarify, i’m not too worried about drugs alone getting in, and i agree they’d get here anyway. what specifically troubles me is allowing these cartels, here and across the border, to keep gaining power to the extent where they can induce the mass mayhem they do, while slowly gaining semi-legitimate political influence because of all the financial might and manipulation they put out. ) Generally speaking, more stringent border patrolling results in reduced levels of racketeering; if not eradicating or even reducing contraband in significant volume, this at least tends to scatter about the chains and levels of distribution and thus hinders the power of the mega cartels.)
It’d be nice to at least get some tax revenue from America’s favorite stealth import.
I, too, am amazed at some of the immigration debate. from a purely legal viewpoint, how, if it’s agreed upon that many are here illegally can illegals ‘qualify’ for affirmative-action or any of the social services (food stamps, rent assistance, energy assistance, etc.); seems to me to be a pure and simple legal (as well as common-sense logical!) disqualification. perhaps the nutritional needs of minor children taken across the border illegally calls for more detailed policy— but otherwise, no!
Opps- I think that I have already broken like several of those rules already. (LOL)- I should of read this blog first before I starting slamming people for being racist. Well guess I am gonna get kicked out. Oh well, nice knowing you all.